Jennifer Carter, Mother Of Jailed League Of Legends Playing Teen, Speaks Out In An Exclusive Interview

Mother of Justin Carter, the jailed League of Legends teen we reported on yesterday, sits down with FreetoPlay TV.

 

Yesterday we posted an article about Justin Carter who was, after playing a game of League of Legends, jailed for comments made on his personal Facebook page.

Your comments and our interest in the story led to us reach out to Justin’s mother, Jennifer Carter, who was kind enough to sit down with FreetoPlay TV’s very own Michael Byrne and talk to us about Justin’s imprisonment in an exclusive interview.

If you missed that story, you may want to check out our “League of Legends Jailed” story first but Jennifer provides us a recap of the events leading up to Justin’s hearing this Monday in our interview.

Magicman: We ran a brief story yesterday, because of the link to League of Legends which is pretty prominent with our audience, and the feedback was overwhelmingly, ‘Yes he said something in poor taste, but  this is ridiculous.” For us to get the facts straight, can you take us through what has gone on so far with Justin?

Jennifer Carter: February 13th was when he was playing League of Legends and I’m not sure and no one seems to be sure why it spilled over into Facebook, but it did. There were a few people involved in this argument and there was some post made on the site while they were playing and so when he was on Facebook the person whose Facebook page it was said ‘Well you’re f****d in the head and crazy.’ And Justin, if you knew my son, is incredibly sarcastic.

[blockquote right="pull-right"]“The only evidence we have from the DA’s Office is a screen capture of his (Facebook) statement and the previous statement.”[/blockquote]

He has a very sarcastic, dark sense of humor and he unfortunately said the equivalent of ‘Oh yeah I’m so messed in the head I’m going to go kill a kindergarten and eat their hearts.’ Immediately after his statement he posted ‘lol’ and ‘j/k’ and the argument continued from there, but the only evidence we have from the DA’s office is a screen capture of his statement and the previous statement. Just Justin’s and the previous statement.

MM:  That’s all Justin’s attorney has been presented with by the DA is a screen capture of a couple of Facebook messages?

JC: Yes. The next day, February 14th, he (Justin) went to work. He’s 18. He has his own apartment, well he lived in an apartment with a roommate and he had a job in San Antonio, and the Sheriffs came to his job and arrested him. Then he was transported from San Antonio to Austin because the woman in Canada found his father’s address where he used to live which is 100 yards from an elementary school. At that point, he sat in jail and bond set at $250,000. His father and I don’t have that kind of money. We thought honestly that yeah that was a pretty bad thing that he said and we can see why they would be concerned after the shooting in Newtown happened a couple months before. So ya everyone was on edge. There have been other teenagers arrested for comments made in Facebook and things of that nature. We thought that once the police talked to him, which we thought would be that day, they would understand it was a stupid comment that he made a dumb joke and once they searched his home they would see there were no weapons and he wasn’t a threat. Basically nothing happened until March 13th. He sat in jail from February 14th until March 13 without being questioned by the police. No one was questioned by the police. They went to his father’s house a week after he was arrested and asked did Justin live here which his father said no, and they asked if he had any guns or permits for guns which Justin’s father said no and that was it. Then he sat in jail.

MM: No explanation why they had him cooling his heels in jail for a month?

JC: None. On March 13th he was questioned by the detectives and he thought best thing for him to do would be to tell the truth. He told them that yes he made the statement and it was a joke and I feel terrible. It was taken badly and I’m sorry for scaring people I didn’t mean to. I didn’t think people would see it or that anyone would be afraid of it. He told them that he did not live in Austin that he lived in New Braunfels and that was it. They questioned him and got his information and then a week after he was questioned they searched his home in New Braunfels and the only thing they found was his computer. He doesn’t have any guns. They confiscated his computer and the only thing that happened after that they transferred him from Austin to New Braunfels and raised his bond to half a million dollars. We don’t know why.

MM: No explanation on that either? (The increase in bail amount.)

JC: No, and this was after they searched his home and found no weapons, and we assume they looked us up and saw we had no weapons. They basically had done all the investigating and the judge raised the bond to half a million dollars which of course we really couldn’t afford to get him out and he’s been in jail ever since. 

Justin has languished in jail for the three and a half months since his transfer to New Braunfels, celebrating his 19th birthday behind bars. There is a hearing set for Monday July 1st to determine if Justin’s case will proceed to trial and under what charges. Jennifer Carter was trying to stay upbeat during the interview, but after the recap, began to get very emotional when we asked how Justin is doing. Words cannot convey the heartbreak a mother in this situation must be enduring.

To make matters worse, Justin has had to be transferred to multiple facilities while awaiting his hearing due to his being assaulted multiple times. Jennifer then told us tearfully that Justin was placed in solitary confinement for his own protection two weeks ago, and is under suicide watch.

MM: How is Justin holding up? I know it’s a mess for you and Justin’s father trying to figure out the legal side but where is his mind?

JC: Well you know at first he was sure that as soon as he spoke to the police he would get out and he was a little naive in that way. His father and I both counseled him NOT to talk to the police without his attorney present and he said ‘No I’m just going to tell the truth’ and that’s what he did. After they transferred him to New Braunfels and raised his bond he became very depressed and he (sobbing) this is kind of the hard part to talk about. It’s incredibly hard to talk to your child on the phone and hear them think they are never going to see the sun again and have them try and bargain with you that they will never play a video game again if they can just be free.’I promise I will never go on Facebook again or go near a computer again if I can just be free. I’m sorry.’ So he’s feeling pretty helpless, and when the DA for New Braunfels said the only plea bargain they would be willing to go with was 8 years in prison he got very depressed.

[blockquote right="pull-left"]“They keep switching him from unit to unit and apparently after the last time he was assaulted the guards were concerned that he would try and kill himself.”[/blockquote]

MM: So they want to offer 8 years in prison in return for an admission for something hes already admitted he did?

JC: Basically yes. So they don’t have to take it to trial and forget that it happened and that he exists. Yeah he became very hopeless and depressed. He’s had a pretty rough time in jail. He’s never been in any kind of trouble before and hes not really familiar with the criminal world. Yeah so he’s been transferred quite a few times after being assaulted in jail. They keep switching him from unit to unit and apparently after the last time he was assaulted the guards were concerned that he would try and kill himself and they placed him in solitary for his own protection. So now he’s in solitary confinement.

MM: How long has he been in solitary?

JC: Two weeks now I think. At first he was not liking it but now he thinks at least he’s safe and no one can hurt him. 

MM: Now what is next in the legal proceedings? As far as hearings?

JC: He has a hearing on Monday July 1st. It’s a pretrial hearing where his attorney is going to ask for his bond to be reduced and again try to plea bargain with the DA’s office and see if they are willing to go lower then they are offering. On our side we are hoping they will just release him. That would be the dream scenario, but you know we would like them to drop it to a misdemeanor charge so that he doesn’t have felony terrorism on his background check for the rest of his life. Maybe he can do community service and talk to other teenagers and warn them to think about what they say before they say it online. There is one part (of myself) that just wants to get him out, but then there’s another part (of myself) that is just so angry that this is even happening and that we are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country and even if we don’t like them (comments) we are supposed to be able to say them without fear.

Justin, Logan and Jennifer Carter

MM: I certainly thank you Jennifer for spending a few minutes with me here and wish Justin and your family the best in this situation. How can our readers and viewers help? They have the link to the change.org petition so I would assume that’s a good place to start, but is there anything else they can do?

JC: Honestly this whole thing has kind of taken us by surprise. (With) the internet attention we went from 300 signatures to having 16000 in a couple of days. We are not really prepared to do anything. We have been discussing setting up a legal fund so we could get him a lawyer instead of a court appointed attorney so at this point all we can really ask is that people sign the petition and send us their best wishes.   

At this point, all Justin and his family can do is wait for the hearing on Monday and hope that the charges are dropped to a misdemeanor charge instead of the felony terrorism charge that the Attorney General has Justin being held under currently.  Jennifer is baffled by this charge from the Attorney General because, as she understands it, under U.S. Law for someone to be held under terrorism charges, the Government must be able to prove that the accused is showing imminent threat and Intent, which so far all they have is a Facebook post to try and prove both.

When asked how did she thinks this whole situation was possible, Jennifer responded that she thought it was due to the extreme reaction to the recent string of violent shootings and the culture of fear that has been built up in the media. She understands that the comment was very bad, but so far the treatment of her son far exceeds any punishment he should receive for the comment.

Words cannot begin to express how I feel after hearing this interview. I cannot even begin to imagine what Justin and his family have been going through over the past couple months. I graduated high school right before the Columbine shootings and I graduated college right before the Virginia Tech shootings. I have 4 nieces and nephews in elementary school and the Newton shooting was very scary. The recent rash of shootings impacts everyone and it is something that is relatively new to our generation.  The fear is understandable, but the reaction is not.

Justin’s comments were undoubtedly in very poor taste, but so is the treatment he has received so far. Just listening to Justin’s mothers talk about the lack of communication from the authorities, and the attempts to force Justin into a plea bargain that will take away a huge chunk of his life is chilling.

We’ll certainly keep you updated on Justin’s legal battle and will let you know if any crowd funding is set up for his legal expense.

After reading the interview, have your opinions changed any on this matter?

154 COMMENTS

  1. sooooo saying stupid shit on fb means that you can get 8 years in jail. but rape, shooting somebody, B&E, intentionally actually causing harm to another person/animal/or property, gets a slap? GG AMERICA

    • Yep. This guy could go to jail for saying something on the internet for as long as some people get for an actual assault.

      • An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. So, yeah, you can assault someone on the Internet.

        Battery would be the physical act of harming someone.

  2. Beware gamers, they are targeting us now. He is being treated this way because he plays video games the cause of mass shooting (rolling eyes with sarcasm). The comment was horrible and an 18 year old should know better than to threaten little kids with harm in this country.

    • Yep. This whole situation reads to me like another group of ignorant politicians trying to make an example out of video games.

    • I don’t think they are targeting gamers. But you got to admit, a lot of gamers are smart, quick, fast with the insult and the shocking comment. To quote the great Gary Gannon, “Gamers are assholes.”

      Sometimes being an ass gets you in trouble.

  3. He should learn to think about what he types before he presses “enter”. Let him rot in prison for a bit longer maybe then he’ll learn.

    Also, slow couple of news days huh?

    • Agreed. Way too many members of the younger generations lack anything resembling respect and judgement in online environments due to it’s anonymity, and this is a pretty good way to draw a line and let them know it wont be tolerated.

      However, I think on a personal level, 8 years is way too long to throw a kid into jail over something like this. Time served, and some community service is probably more appropriate a punishment. I think he’s had the sense scared into him by now. Plus, his story has let other gamers know they’re not untouchable for similar types of behavior.

      • “sense scared into him buy now”? You serious?
        He was held without due process for over a month in witch time he was assaulted and probably raped in prison.

        • How was he held without due process? He was arrested, had a bail hearing, had bail set. Heck, the detectives waited a month before interviewing him, they had no desire to interview the kid and allow him to dig the hole deeper. I wouldn’t be surprised if the detectives were hoping the kid would make bail and refuse to make further statements, so they could close the case and send it to the DA.

          • Yes, because it is right and good that this guy was assaulted and is now suicidal before being tried in court.

            /endsarcasm because some random canadian will take me as serious and report me to the Austin PD.

      • this is not as much about how disrespectful my generation has become, but this is a patent display of a flawed court system in america. How a generation is raised and chooses to act should not cloud the fact that he is unjustly convicted and thrown in jail for a crime that does not fit the mold of what he actually did, He knew it was in bad taste and tried to take it back. No matter your generation you will look at the next one thinking they are a bunch of shits, which they usually are, but they should be treated as respectable human beings if they are acting like one themselves, and the fact that Justin tried to do the right thing by simply going to the court and telling the plain truth and apologizing for his comment that he accredits himself for, he should be freed, now the rest of his life, free or not, he will have this stupid thing looming over his head, and the horrible memories he has to endure. Your parents had this point in their lives, your parents parents had this point in their lives were we may not be as respectful as we should be and we think we are more untouchable than we really are, but that’s called being young and having freedoms…

    • Are you autistic? You don’t throw someone in jail due to SPEECH. Or did we all forget about the fucking first amendment?

      • I would rather send some one to jail before they commit the crime he is the one that posted that he was going to kill kids and eat their hearts you have to have some kind of mental problem to post stuff like that after sandy hook where 20 innocent children where slaughtered by an person with mental problems so lets be thankful that he is locked up for right now and they can find out what type of mental problem he has instead of finding out after he does commit a horrible crime

  4. This is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, the police need to realize that this is being thrown completely out of proportion. I know of someone who has filed 3 police reports and lied and she is still free. There are murders and rapists that go free each day. But having a bond of half a million, being in jail 3 months, is just stupid. I mean, I could understand picking him up for questioning about the comment. But once the obvious truth was shown they should of let him go and that be the end of it. But on another point this will hopefully help people realize that they just can’t say what they want without consequences.

    • “hopefully help people realize that they just can’t say what they want without consequences.” yes it was a crude comment he made, but now you have to watch what you say, so much for freedom of speech I guess they want to control that as well, oh man am I glad I live in Canada, whew.

      I do agree they’ve gone a bit to far, he should be slapped with a fine and let out of jail. :)

      • I don’t get all this freedom of speech nonsense, at least as it pertains to his situation. I believe in the first amendment, but a person’s “freedom of speech” should not include tolerance of threats of personal violence..

        • Who did he personally threaten? What school? Which children? There’s no motive. There’s no intent. There’s no smoking gun(literally no weapons at all except a keyboard).

      • Interesting you mentioned Canada, considering it’s a Canadian that called the local police to file a complaint and put the law into this boys life.

  5. Oh I can’t wait until I say some shit on the internet, so some crazy lady can find my home address and the police come over to put me in jail for at least a month.
    Seriously, is this shit really happening? I know what he said was harsh and he shouldn’t have said it, but they want to give him 8 years just for one phrase on the internet?
    This world is progressively losing it’s sanity.

  6. When I first heard this story I thought to myself, “Well, that’ll teach him.” But at that time I assumed we were talking a night in jail and a search of his home that turned up nothing. Now I see months in jail and instead I am terrified at the power of our culture of fear.

  7. He’s probably going to have to hold out for a trial by jury. Once a jury actually hears the facts of this case, there’s no way they don’t acquit him… of course that’ll probably take years (because right to a speedy trial is a constitutional amendment nobody ever remembers exists).

    What people need to realize about “freedom of speech” is that there have always been exceptions to it. It really doesn’t do all the things people seem to assume it does. The classic example is that you can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater. The standard here is that you can’t cause harm through your speech. What this kid said didn’t cause any harm, but it could have. It was right and proper that the statement be investigated, and it was right and proper that he be removed from any potential to cause harm while it was being investigated. But that’s done now. The investigation is over. The prosecutor’s got nothing, but because he wants to justify the time and expense of his investigation, he’s proceeding with this ridiculous charge that he KNOWS won’t hold up in trial. He’s hoping for a plea bargain, and to get his name in the news.

    Was it a deeply stupid thing to say? Yeah. Does he deserve to have his entire life ruined (or ended… prison after all) for it? No, probably not.

    • Actually, I dont think anything in his statement could have possibly caused harm to anyone. Was a school evacuated and lives disrupted? Did his words put anyone’s safety at risk? No. The only way his words would have been threatening is if they were specific enough to terrorize.

  8. The fact that they blame video games for mass shootings is absurd, if anything blame the media. Those twisted people who to commit those acts do it because their names will be all over the news, they want the attention.

    As for the kid, he shouldn’t have said what he had, but trying to put him away for 8 years is ridiculous.

  9. They need to release him on house arrest if anything. This kid has suffered enough at the hands of our justice system. Yeah, he shouldn’t have said what he said but you can tell just by reading it that he was being sarcastic and was joking (he even said j/k). The detectives inability to use deductive reasoning is a major failure and they need to be fired. The woman who saw this and decided to report it needs to stay away from the internet if she is so fearful of sarcasm and crappy jokes.

    If only common sense wasn’t an oxymoron.

    • I don’t think that has anything to do with anything they found, they moved him to another district so a judge in that district just set different bail amount. Which is a moot point since they couldn’t afford the original bail anyway.

    • He made a statement to the detectives admitting to threatening to kill kids. They don’t care if he was joking or being sarcastic. They don’t care if he is sorry he posted the threat.

  10. DEA is hoping he will take the eight years and the public will not find out about this violation of freedom of speech. I sincerely hope the DEA involved dies of cancer.

    I can say this because I live in the third world and not a first world police state that monitors teenagers Facebook accounts for sarcasm.

    • Since you live in the third world, let me clear a couple things up for you. First, the acronym you’re looking for is DA (or ADA most likely), which stands for District Attorney (or Assistant District Attorney). DEA stands for Drug Enforcement Agency, which is really not involved at all.

      Second, the first amendment’s guarantee of free speech for everyone clause says that Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of speech. What that’s specifically for is protecting political speech. Under King George, speaking out against the government or the king got you jailed (or worse). So the framers of the constitution wanted to make sure that could no longer be a thing. The amendment has never been about being able to say what you want, where you want, whenever you want. That’s not what it’s for, and that’s not what it does.

      This kid said something, in a public forum, that could reasonably be interpreted as a threat against the safety of others. Someone reported it, and action was taken. It is proper that the statement itself be investigated to determine what kind of threat this kid posed to people. What is not proper though, is keeping him locked up after that investigation turned up no more evidence than an off-hand remark on Facebook. The prosecution here has no case, but they’re proceeding anyway because it’s sexy to prosecute it anyway.

      • Be careful, someone may interpret your comment as a threat against the safety of others. At what point do you want to say it’s not ok to go to jail for how your words are interpretted by others?

  11. it sickens me that even after he tries to go out and do the right thing by simply telling the truth, he is condemned and punished. This is horrible and I feel really bad for Justin, I know I’ve accidentally made a poor taste comment, I end up deleting it… hell when I’m tired I might say something I don’t even remember, he knew it was in bad taste after he posted it or else he wouldn’t of gone out and tryed to make it obvious he was kidding… this makes me afraid to touch a computer, is this comment going to get me thrown in jail because I confess to making a poor choice comment? wtf, I know someone who called in a prank bomb threat and didnt get ANY of this punishment, but of course he did that 30 years ago.

  12. Very sad story. I feel so very horrible for the mother.

    This is turning into a litany of the wrong things to say and do.
    – Do not admit to a crime when talking to the police. They don’t care if you were joking, has a dark sense of humor, sarcastic.
    - Do not make additional statements to the detectives without a lawyer present. Do not admit to the crime and say you are sorry. The police do not care if you were joking or sorry. Boys will be boys is no longer a valid defense. One reason I suspect there was a month delay between the arrest and interview was, the detective was hoping the kid would get out on bail. So, the detective could close the case and send it to the DA.
    - Don’t go to a bail hearing without a lawyer.
    - Hire a lawyer, using a court appointed lawyer is not a winning strategy.
    - Talk to a bail bonds about getting out of jail. Follow their advise and get out of jail. Nothing good will happen by sitting in jail when a bond is available.
    - Don’t talk to your mother about the details of the case. Admitting to your mother, you threaten a school does not help. Being described as having a dark sense of humor or being very sarcastic at 18 year of age, does not help. I wouldn’t be surprised if this goes to trial, the mother becomes a witness for the prosecution.
    - Don’t piss off the District Attorney. The police probably had no choice about arresting the kid, there was complaint about a kid threatening to kill some kids in school. There is clear evidence he made the threat. Talking to the press and working on petitions just piss off the DA. If the kid was not still in jail, I wouldn’t be surprised if the DA would have placed this case in a desk drawer, waiting for the kid to screw up again. If he stopped posting threats online, I wouldn’t be surprised if the DA simply dropped the case.

    Personally, I really hope the DA drops the case. This should not go to trial.

      • Why? It’s the truth. The kid made a threat against a school. He admitted to making the threat. Case law indicates that an arrest would be inevitable. Doesn’t matter if the kid claimed he was joking, until the investigation is complete, it has to be taken as a credible threat. As such an arrest is warranted.

  13. i really didnt read the whole thing for the fact that(i am probably an asshole here but whateva)this is gettign too much attention from the police like seriously instead of arresting who U SHOULD be arresting u arresting 18 year old people for a comment on the internet meh what can i say the world sucks anyways i got nothing more to say

  14. the 1st amend doesn’t protect your “right” to make threats even after you put “lol and j/k” at the end of your threatening statement. perhaps people-yes, this includes teenagers, should learn to be more responsible for the things they say. it has repercussions.

    perhaps readers simply glossed over the information that people directly involved in the initial argument were declaring that this young man was “messed up in the head”. i wonder what kinds of things he was saying to them (my bet is more of the same sick shite).

    i’m also curious what else was found on the computer and via any other investigative channels that gets the bail bumped up to half a mil. was this young man involved in something more sinister than making idle threats?

    8 years seems excessive for comments alone, but if it’s on the books as a punishment then that’s what he’s facing. of course there’s all kinds of lesser outcomes along the way. if it were just the comments i’d like to see some kind of psychological/counseling treatment as mandatory and community service rather than prison time.

    as for the assaults he’s been subjected to while incarcerated, we don’t have any specifics in regards to them. perhaps he started some of these altercations or was equally at fault for them? can’t smart off to the wrong type of people and walk away unscathed, it’s not the internet.

    @magicman- love what you do, but get your facts straight, he’s jailed not “imprisoned” (there’s a big difference).

    law enforcement/justice system can’t win for trying. constantly scrutinized for not doing enough or doing too much. we live in such a neurotic society.

    • Hi! Appreciate your comments! :) Actually both terms are correct as they are used to specify a place not an action. Jailed in a jail (usually local), imprisoned in a prison (state or federal). From what we gathered, Justin’s been moved multiple times now in and out of both types for “holding” until his trial. Thus the facts are correct and both terms apply. :)

    • I think it we had a more transparent judicial system you wouldn’t have to ask what’s on his computer althought they arent ever going to tell you. because psh why would they you are the public you have no right to know.

    • Yes, the 1st Amendment does in fact protect fake threats. There have been multiple court cases that have been decided in favor of threat-makers that were far more serious than an obviously over-the-top-sarcastic comment.

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with constant public scrutiny of law enforcement and the justice system. That’s how we keep rights abuses like this one in check. The fact that you think scrutiny of those systems is a problem speaks volumes.

      Your guilty-until-proven-innocent mindset is not welcome in the USA.

    • Please get out of my country. Take all of your friends that think like you do. You are a threat to my liberty and the liberty of my fellow citizens. I have a right to tell you so. You should also be greatful that you have a right to spout your dangerous ideas even if they are threatening to me.

  15. what i want to know is why the hell major news hasnt reported this???? this is the most absurd thing ive ever heard. he made a comment on facebook and hes being arrested for that??? are u kidding me? i say crazy shit all the time, HOW IS THAT A CRIME??? shit ive gotten caught stealing and i spend 3 days in jail. this kid made a comment and hes in jail for months? this guy needs to get a lawyer and sue the SHIT out of that city/county. complete bullshit

  16. I had sexual relations with a woman for the sole purpose of recreation…
    Come at me American Police!
    This is simply ridiculous, lets put this into the context of this guy got into an argument with someone in a bar, the two parties had a dispute, they started insulting each other, one of them said something not very tasteful.
    If he was in a pub and told some guy to go **** his mum would he be recieving the same punishment? Maybe he’s implying that he’s going to force a sexual relationship between this guy and his mum because thats how dark and dangerous he is… or maybe he’s 18 and said the first insulting thing that popped into his head….

  17. Given the comments that previous sociopath teenagers have made before going on to kill dozens of innocent schoolkids, you’d have to be a moron to not think the authorities would take his threat seriously.

    If they didn’t, and he had also gone on to harm someone, they would’ve been to blame for not listening.

    • “…you’d have to be a moron to not think the authorities would take his threat seriously.”

      I’ll agree to that to a point. However, this seems to have gone far beyond that. In addition, it’s like the authorities have now realized they’ve taken it too far and fear if they don’t take it all the way and get a conviction they will be punished for being wrong.

  18. His biggest mistake was was talking to the police. Young people need to learn that modern day law enforcement is not what it used to be, is not our friend, and you should never talk to the police without lawerying up first.

  19. This is stupid as hell, he has not even committed a crime yet and is already being prosecuted… and the judge raises the bond? Are people getting dumber or just judges? Where these dimbwitts get their degrees?

    • Making the threat was a crime. Sincere or not, he broke the law when he did that.

      It’s certainly ballooned out of all proportion, but he’s NOT an innocent little angel who can do no wrong.

      • A threat? It is obvious in reading what was said that it was a sarcastic comment… A sarcastic comment made in bad taste I’ll agree… but a threat? I dont think so.

        • Apparently not so obvious. In any event it might not matter as far as the statute is concerned.

          It’s in the same class as joking to airport security about .. anything really. Make a sarcastic bomb-related comment to the TSA and see what happens.

          • Any individual with at least an intermediate understanding of the English language could easily see he didn’t mean it. You’re also completely ignoring that this wasn’t said to an officer, it was said to a friend whom he clearly joked with on a normal basis. His humor might be crude but it isn’t worth going to jail for. That’s the equivalent of saying people should go to jail for playfully saying they’re evil and eat babies.

            This entire situation wreaks of ignorance and pointlessness. An excessive punishment.. Heck, I’ve seen murderers get less time than this kid. It’s ridiculous and heavy handed. No self respecting judge would rule against the defendant and no jury would rule against the defendant. It’s a logical fallacy.

          • It doesn’t have to be said to a police officer. It was said in public. There’s no privacy in a public venue. And I think it’s both right and proper that his statement be investigated, and that he be removed from any possibility of causing harm to others during that investigation.

            Now, do I think a jury convicts him? No, I don’t. Do I think people need to learn that what they say in public matters? Yes, yes I do.

          • There has to be a balance. Intelligence and respect have to be used. He’s been in jail for how long now? The boy CLEARLY wasn’t going to do anything. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. His family and friends have all stated that he was extremely sarcastic, his post history could easily verify that as well. They have no evidence against him other than his statement, which he made out of pure ignorance and naivete! I’m perfectly OK with investigating the young man, but any officer worth his salt could easily see it wasn’t meant to be an actual threat.

            An investigation has to include character as well, if not, you’re not very good at what you do. As is clear in this particular incident.

            Edit: Also, yelling bomb in an airport and typing bomb in a Facebook page is in no way the same thing. Once again, no comparison.

          • Your line of thinking is a threat to liberty. I hope the ACLU will take this up. I hope that someone will get the courts to establish that what people say on facebook and other social media deserves protection and not constantly be compared to the cliche of yelling fire in a crowded theater. The internet has changed how we communicate ideas and we no longer should need to own a printing press to establish that we are protected to publish our thoughts or even our conversation.

          • I would concede your point if the comment was made directly to a parent with children at a school, or if the specific school was mentioned, or it was written in a letter taped to the school doors, etc. Luckily, I can make bomb related jokes when I’m not in a TSA line. And even if I did, I wonder what the Supreme Court would actually say. I guess it would depend if the other people in line laughed at my joke before I was arrested.

      • Sending a kid to jail for no reason…you are right. Tax dollars in no way go to the prison system. We should send more people to jail for dumbass comments they make in their teens. And yes I am from Texas. Is there a problem with that? Go Longhorns!

  20. wow I can’t believe I live in this country First we get watched by the government and listened too i and then making facebook comments that clearly are not true gets you thrown in jail for 8 years. But murder someone and you are out in 5 wheres the justice in that.

    • And that’s the thing isn’t it? I think we can all agree that he said something stupid and if he got a slap on the wrist and a couple of days in jail, or even community service, it wouldn’t be a big deal. But they have him locked up since February, they want to give him 8 years and forget this mess ever happened. And that’s the terrible thing. We all know he didn’t meant it and he didn’t deserve such a harsh treatment, and yet, he’s probably mentally ruined over sarcasm.
      Oh… this really makes me mad.

      • Yes a slap on the wrist and a couple of days in jail, or even community service, WOULD be a big deal! Because it would still be stripping him of his First Amendment right. The government does NOT have the right to send people to jail for comments made in poor taste or that simply offend someone.

        What if you were arrested and given a slap on the wrist and a couple of days in jail, or even community service for wearing a pink shirt in public because the cop who saw you don’t like pink. Would that be a big deal?

        • Wearing a pink sweater is hardly the same thing as saying you’re going to murder someone.

          But that’s not even what I was focusing on or talking about. I was talking of out it was blown out of proportion, since I’m not American the Amendment rights aren’t the first thing that springs to my mind in this case.
          The truth is, this would significantly impact less people if the “punishment” hadn’t blown completely out of proportion

          And to be honest, saying “I’m going to murder children and eat their hearts”, has less to do with freedom of speech and more to do with the “witty argumentative culture” in competitive games.

          Oh shit… Now I said it! Please Canadian lady, don’t send the police after me!

          • I can certainly appreciate that. Yet in the end, at least for those of us here in the USA, this comes down to do we have the right to say what we are thinking and express our selves like the 1st Amendment gives us or are we going to have to start being afraid of the “Thought Police”.

            After all are we going to start arresting all the writers that depict violence to children in their books and movies?

            Just my 3 cents worth ;)

  21. Still same as before this interview.
    He was stupid for saying/typing such a thing, but eight years jail!?
    There`re no weapons, nothing other then one FB sscreenshot.
    This goes beyond ridiculous.

  22. Maybe someone should have taught this 18 year old CHILD to walk away
    instead of being little mouthy punk trying to say offensive things to
    each other… And hopefully jail time might teach him and other little
    punks that what they say or type has consequences. Our words mean
    something, and having a lack of concern for the meaning of the words we
    use and down play the use of words is why most people think badly of
    people from the states. They are selfish self centered and careless
    about what they say to anyone using foul language like it doesn’t matter
    with disregard towards respecting anyone when it comes to how they
    express themselves in speech. Its about time some of these low lifes
    are getting punished for their stupidity maybe more of these loud mouth
    punks will get punished and people might start learning their behavior
    is unacceptable.
    Kids learn behavior from their parents so where should our eyes be looking, who is really to blame for the lack of discipline this kid has?

    • You must be a Saint, right?

      Of course what you seem to be forgetting is that here in the USA we have what is called the Constitution. The first 10 Amendments to said Constitution make up our Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights outlines our natural born given rights. The very first Amendment is our RIGHT to Freedom of Speech. That right is being stripped away from Justin. The very same right that allowed you to call him “little mouthy punk”!

      Once the courts set enough of a president by sending these so called “little mouthy punks” to jail they will start coming after folks like you, when you speak out against the government. Do you really want to live in a country in which anything you say can send you to jail for 8 plus years and label you as a terrorist?

      • You have to understand, the first amendment doesn’t allow you to say anything you want, right? You can’t walk into a crowded build and yell fire or bomb without some sort of repercussions. Stuff like that falls under a term called true threat.
        A true threat is a threatening communication that can be prosecuted under the law. It is distinct from a threat that is made in jest. The U.S. Supreme Court has held that true threats are not protected under the U.S. Constitution based on three justifications: preventing fear, preventing the disruption that follows from that fear, and diminishing the likelihood that the threatened violence will occur.

        • Very well said Sir. I hope you will take the time to listen to a counter argument though, and take this into account:

          He had no weapons. None. And the only thing they have to prosecute the boy with is a sarcastic comment made on Facebook. Worse things have been said over dozens of different sites, in different ways. Yet they’re not going to prison, and I’m sure at least a few of those men actually own a gun.

          So while i can agree that you have limitations on what the first amendment can protect you from, MOST of those limits are common sense. And even so, if this boy was a hardened terrorist, why is he constantly beaten in jail? Wouldn’t a real killer fight back, and at least take *someone* out?

          I thank you for your time.

          • I understand that and in this case I believe it is going too far. My point was more towards the comment about the first amendment. I just wanted to clarify that the freedom of speech people cite all the time doesn’t give you the right to say anything without repercussion.

          • But the First Amendment does protect our right to make jokes and sarcastic comments that are completely harmless no matter how offensive and/or in poor taste they may be. I am not saying that the authorities should not follow up on tips but they did not even have enough to legally obtain a search warrant let alone an arrest warrant. That is why they fell back on the Patriot Act and charged him with felony terrorism.

          • But once you start making public comments on public sites/forums, anything you say is open to misinterpretation. There is no /sarcasm font and what may seem completely harmless to you, someone else may interpret different. That’s why it’s just easier to you know, don’t make threatening comments, even just joking. Plus since you’re dealing with a public forum you have to take the state of the public into mind when saying things, especially with how people view gun violence and terrorism lately.

          • If I understand correctly, he didn’t even realize he was saying it on public forum. It’s probably one of these facebook-integrated games. He was talking with one particular friend he knew, and most likely didn’t even realize that someone else started “following” their discussion, or whatever the term is in the social media.Even if indication of this was somewhere on the webpage, unless this “concerned citizen” actually said something, he might not have even noticed that it’s now more than two in the “room”.

          • A newspaper editorial is publicly accessible. Where do you draw the line? Had this kid said he was going to eat babies would you apply the same standard because there were people who took the comment seriously? I hope the ACLU will get involved with this case. It would be nice for this to be taken to a higher court where some precedence can be established for how to treat speech like this in this ‘high tech media’ before we all lose the right to speak our minds out of fear we will be imprisoned or sued. This should be a very real concern because this is where we as a society are communicating our ideas and just because these ideas can be read by more people than ever before shouldn’t make them less protected than other forms of protected speech.

          • “freedom of speech people cite all the time doesn’t give you the right to say anything without repercussion.”

            Social repercussion – certainly. But the government has no right to arrest people who did not violate the law. So let’s see if any law applies, even remotely.

            =============
            Texas Penal Code – Section 22.07. Terroristic Threat

            § 22.07. TERRORISTIC THREAT. (a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
            (1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
            (2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;
            (3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;
            (4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;
            (5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury; or
            (6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.
            =============

            Note that the law does not say “causes” (all the consequences such as emergency response etc.), but “has intent” for that, that is, the perpetrator announces his intent in order to cause the emergency response, cause fear, and so on. Obviously, this case does not fit anything of this even remotely.

          • Looking at the context of his statement, there’s nothing that should have limitted his protection to WRITING what he wrote.

          • I am not sure if you misread my comment or if you are confusing it with someone else’s? I am in full agreement with what you just said. I do not think that he should be charged with anything. He is being persecuted for something he said, even if it was in print. That is a clear violation of his First Amendment Rights!

          • The problem though is that threatening statements are not protected by the first amendment. They government didn’t physically stop him from saying the things he did, he is just now dealing with the consequences of saying those things

          • But he never threatened anyone. He made a sideways comment/joke. Now if he gave a specific school and/or location then that might be construed as a threat. But instead he made a very generalized comment.

          • Again, everyone is on edge after the Newtown shooting (taking the state of society into account when making comments) as I previously mentioned. He made a threatening statement (jokingly) in very poor taste not long after a national tragedy concerning something very similar.
            I said before, I believe this whole situation has blown way out of proportion. There’s no reason he should get 8 years in prison for saying that but at the same time, I also think they’re just using this to set an example. The first amendment does a lot of things, but it doesn’t allow you to say anything.

          • Newton shooting is no excuse for this. It’s one event in big country with hundreds of millions of population. Yes, terroristic acts do happen, did happen, and will happen. Wars happen, which carry away much more lives. Other things happen. Terror acts have been happening all over the world in all kinds of countries, but even much smaller ones don’t fall into such hysteria, at least not that I recall. England was living with terrorism for quite a long time, but they didn’t abandon their core laws and didn’t start throwing kids in jail on the next day after each act. But we do it, and then justify it – of course, we just had this tragedy, so on the next morning whole society’s morale must change 180°. And nobody but USA has invented the concept of “zero tolerance”, not even the Soviets or China. In all civilized countries every deed and every crime still gets some consideration – with one notable exception.

            If one event, however tragic, is able to put upside down the values of the whole country, it means that this country has zero stability and will shatter like a glass very soon.

          • You have to be very careful about drawing your line in the sand on when your speech should be criminalized. This meets none of the criteria.

          • I don’t care if he “sounded” serious about it and wasn’t in the heat of video gaming banter. If the only thing the police found after investigating, is his speech, then there is no threat. Meanwhile this kid has been assaulted in jail, placed in solitary to prevent him from comitting suicide, and has been offered a plea deal from the DA of an 8 year sentence. Welcome to the USSofA.

          • ” And even so, if this boy was a hardened terrorist, why is he constantly beaten in jail? Wouldn’t a real killer fight back, and at least take *someone* out?”

            That’s one of the dumbest arguments I’ve read about this whole thing.

    • I must agree with the part about careless kids saying stupid s*** online without a care. But here is my list of unanswered questions that make this story stink badly: How can someone FROM A DIFFERENT FUCKIN COUNTRY feel the overwhelming patriotism to a foreign nation and muster the resolve to snitch on a foreign citizen? Secondly, how can a ramdom stranger access private conversations on a platform like Facebook without any authorities raising an eyebrow? Why would US law enforcement accept snitching FROM A FOREIGN CITIZEN ? and unfortunately last of all: How can 5-10 lines of text constitute irefutable evidence in charging a stupid kid with terrorism when taken out of context?
      answer me this, Ms. and i’m anxiously awaiting the FBI knocking down my door on your tip for calling you stupid

    • Your just stupid lol . Its the internet people are gonna say stupid derogative comments to eachother. You sound just like that dumb retarded canadian woman… Lol , are you gonna go reporting all of us for saying stuff like this on the internet. Cmon learn sarcasm , learn jokes , Learn that half the time these kids that say mean things dont really mean it. Just because theyre big words doesnt mean theyre using them as an intention to hurt or offend people. Why dont you think before you attack the parents of this child who has been in jail for a few months. And our words do not mean jail at all , Freedom of speech makes that very very evident.

        • No, it’s really people like you who are the stupid ones. Free speech is only free so long as we will fight for it even when it’s unpopular. Nobody needs to defend the First Amendment if everyone said things that everyone liked–when you have to fight is when it’s unpopular, whether it’s the KKK, or Reverend “God Hates Fags,” or dumb kids saying dumb things on the internet because he got in an argument over a video game. We fight for the unpopular because doing so is the only way to stop the slow creep of censorship. We fight for Justin Long because if we don’t, it’s only a few steps to arresting Pinback_Sherman for saying sufficiently stupid things on the internet.

          I chose to be a Marine so that I could protect our freedoms from threats coming from abroad. I chose to be an attorney because it would give me the power to protect our freedoms from threats that come from within our country. If that’s stupid to you, then I’m proud to be stupid alongside many amazingly stupid colleagues. What have you done with your life?

          • I don’t give a flying f**k what you did or do. I was in the service too doesn’t make me special or know more than anybody. This twat kid decided to open his fat dumb mouth and “threaten” killing kids. Sorry – you must SUCK as a lawyer or you would know that there are limits to freedom of speech.

          • You’re right, serving doesn’t make you know more than anyone else. Reading, learning, having an open mind does. Read a little. You’d be surprised.

            You’re right that there are limits to free speech–however, they’re not limits on WHAT you say, but on the time place and manner in which you say it. For example, if the park authorities don’t want people protesting after 9 p.m., that might be a valid regulation. If the park doesn’t want people quoting South Park, or expressing white supremacist views, or campaigning for Bill Ayers for President, any regulations trying to ban that would be unconstitutional.

            We haven’t had a great history on content-based censorship despite great intentions. The Alien and Sedition Acts were a particularly shameful low point, and wouldn’t survive judicial review today. People like you tend to trot out the paraphrase about “shouting fire in a crowded theater” to “prove” that free speech doesn’t really exist. That came from Schenck v. U.S., a 1919 case from a time where respect for the First Amendment was still low, that isn’t really good law anymore. It’s pretty much been superseded by Brandenberg v. Ohio, which pretty much said that the government can only restrict speech based on it’s content if it would if it can incite imminent lawless action, and the speaker INTENDS for his speech to do just that. Even under that standard (which is about 50 years old, 50 years during which jurisprudence has only shifted towards even greater protection of free speech), Carter isn’t guilty of anything. For one thing, the mens rea isn’t there–”twat kid deciding to open his fat dumb mouth” isn’t the same as “intending to incite imminent lawless action.” Even if we ignore the intent element entirely, there is nothing about his words that would incite any lawless action.

            Regardless of our disagreements, I thank you for your service. Even though you were probably Army. You sound like an Army guy.

            Also, you’re right, my service doesn’t make me special. Being a lawyer doesn’t make me special. But I try my best to fight to preserve our rights, especially those among us nobody else will fight for, no matter how hard or unpopular the cause, because that’s the only way I know that this country will be as good for my kids as it has been for me. When I run into people like you, Pinback, it makes me realize that yes, doing so does make me special. But I sincerely hope that, sometime during my life, I will be able to say that it makes me just like everyone else.

          • Tsk. This is the thing. He violated Texas Penal Code 22.07 or is accused of it. He hasn’t been prosecuted yet. He was held in jail – with a bail of 500K – able to get out IF he could afford the bail which is what the bail would be for ANYBODY that was accused of that specific crime. Only he didn’t have the money. Well, until a anonymous donor helped him out. So – this isn’t some kind of miscarriage of justice. It’s how the law works. And always had been. You get charged with a crime, they set the bail and if you can’t get bonded out you stay until your trial. And as a lawyer I’m sure you know he was still in there under the amount of time the a speedy trial rule dictates it has to be. Now if you want to see a real miscarriage of justice go read about George Zimmerman getting let go.

  23. what i dont understand is how laws work there…i mean i can post this everyday some crazy old hag will put the police on me and at the end of the day i will sue her for moral dmg ( yea just read that you can actualy do that huh…) i mean

  24. This is pathetic the kid was clearly being facetious.. What a waste of tax payer money and everyones time and effort.. Why don’t you put that money and peoples time to good use and catch some REAL criminals..

  25. I will say this: I love America. I love the concept, I love how everything in the law is so well worded. I love its plains, its oceans and mountains, the snow and the sky above us. I love every facet of America. I would DIE for America.

    Things like this though, this isn’t okay. THIS is fear, corruption, everything that America protects us from (Obviously in theory). America isn’t broken, the people are. Broken by fear of terrorists, of pain and suffering, of everything that makes reality so hard to face. They are broken in fear of what this poor boy lives every day. And the worst part? We’re so broken that we allow it to happen, because it’s not US in the way of harm.

    As I said, I would die for America, I would take a million bullets to protect the freedoms it provides. I will stand by America with all my heart. But until the People start *acting* like America, I will not stand by them and will fight for everyone’s rights, for American rights.

    Thank you for your time listening to my opinions. Assuming I’m not in prison tomorrow for them, I’d be happy to read your replies. (The prison thing is a joke, in case the internet failed to convey my sarcasm)

  26. I just got done playing the same game and I got called a nigger and my opponents said I should uninstall the game and die from aids.

    And I don’t care. Welcome to the Internet.

    • And that works 99% of the time because people hide behind the anonymity of the internet. There is little to no accountability for things said. I highly doubt the people who say that online would ever walk up to a random person on the street and say that to them.

      • You’re describing the Canadian woman, and not Justin Carter, right? Clearly, he wasn’t hiding his identity if some idiot with google could find him so quickly, but she’s actually hiding behind an organization that exists specifically to forward anonymous tips to police.

  27. I’ve said such worse things. Justin isn’t even witty in his rebuttal at least try and make the other person feel bad.

    But seriously i can see county jail being an option or probation, but prison? People get less for 5th DUI’s in Tennessee

  28. really this is beyond retarded…. How can they tell him to admit to something for 8 years when he has already admitted it. Plus he doesnt even live near a school, and doesnt own any weapons what so ever. And since when did they take back freedom of speech ? Because i kind of remember that being allowed. Fuck that canadian bitch cunt who reported him, NO one deserves this for just saying a few words.

    • Free speech only means you can’t get arrested for pure speech based on the content. Verbal acts, however, can be punished.

      “Yes, I will pay you three thousand dollars a kilo of your finest crack cocaine.”
      “Vinnie, make that bitch disappear for me.”
      “Judge, if you don’t rule my way, you’re going to die like that other judge who didn’t rule my way.”

      Context matters. In this case, the context clearly doesn’t support any kind of criminal charges, but if you “just say a few words” in a different context, where they help accomplish something illegal, the First Amendment is no defense.

  29. The fact of the matter is, the kid said some bullshit on a computer game. If anyone has spent more than 5 minutes on the internet playing an online game, they’ve been told to eat S### and die, get cancer, eat a D### or something along those lines. Now, do I agree with it? No, its kind of crappy to say those things to people, but seriously – Welcome to the Internet: here’s your lube, get f***ed. HOWEVER, it was the kids mistake thinking that the system is your friend. I mean you don’t talk without an attorney, regardless if you’re innocent or not.

    I feel like if everyone who made an obscene, sarcastic, or just rude comment on the internet was detained, that the prison systems would be more overpopulated than they already are, and 50-90% of the people reading this would be incarcerated as well. The fact of the matter is that people get pissed off when they play games. I know, I play A LOT! Also, people vent on social media, it happens. I mean go look at your friends list, Ill wait…

    That being said, go listen to anything related to modern social media, music, television, or gaming, and tell me that he was out of line. If you don’t want to be exposed to it, don’t do it. I mean yeah, they were right to follow up, but incarceration was a bit much. I’ve heard much worse, from older and younger people alike. Don’t let the media make you think somethings is bigger than it actually is.

    oh, and by the way – SARCASM !!!!

  30. E watch ofThis is why everyone hates america because your scumbag govornment does shit like this with such little evidence they could of at leazt released him to his family under the watch of an ankle brace. With the evidence of a hurtful comment on the internet I don’t see any way they can justify his imprisonment

    • And where do you live, remnant? Or you, re1gn1te?

      As horrible as America can be, especially in certain states, we’re one of the best nations in the world when it comes to due process. Look at Norway: people complained that Norway was soft on crime because that crazy, right-wing mass murderer only got 15 years, but despite being “soft on crime,” Norway is horrible on due process. Look at the whole picture: At the end of 15 years, a handful on unelected government officials get to come in, determine he’s still a threat to society, and keep him a little longer, until you effectively have a life sentence.

      By your bad grammar and spelling and your arrogant, yet helplessly whiny tone, I’m guessing you’re from mainland Europe. Europe, for those of you keeping score, houses the last first world nations to still have criminal defamation on the books. Many European nations have criminal hate speech statutes. Few (actually, not a single one that I know of) European nations have any sort of public document that firmly defines what hate speech is. So, people from countries with vague laws punishing free speech don’t get to criticize America about due process or overreaching governments either. (Well, they do, because America has great free speech protections, they’ll just look like moronic hypocrites while doing so.)

      If you live in China or any Muslim country in the Middle East, you don’t even get to talk on the subject. I might mean that more literally than I did for the Europeans, because you might be actually stopped from commenting here by the Great Firewall, or you could be executed for saying the wrong thing under Sharia law.

      South America: When you have multiple countries that have coined the term “the disappeared” for certain people the government didn’t like, you have bigger problems to worry about than due process in the U.S.A.

      Australia can criticize us though.

  31. Man really sucks for him that he had to go to jail in Texas. He will probably be executed before he even gets a trial hearing..

    I feel for his family.

    • he should petition jeb bush for a pardon. if hes running for dictator in chief, he could use all the pr he can get.

  32. Who is this kid’s attorney? Plea bargain? That’s crazy. From what I’ve read, this kid has an incredible case, and he should be demanding a speedy trial.

  33. Lady sue the fuck out of those assholes in Texas and also Canadians, FUCK OFF ya dumb fing Canucks. Worry about your own country and not ours (lady ratted him out is from Canada, figures).

    • Wow! I’m amazed, and very offended, at your generalisation of Canada… should I refer to you as a “obese, uneducated, rude, racist, arrogant, gun-loving, gullible, materialistic” American? Or would you rather have me refer to you as a friendly American? The choice is yours, make the right one next time.

      On topic, this is wrong.

      • canadians are just as “obese, uneducated, rude, racist, arrogant, gun-loving, gullible, materialistic” as americans on average. Dont kid yourself lady.

      • Where in that comment did he make any sort of racist generalizations about Canadians on the level that you made racist generalizations about Americans?

        I don’t agree that all Canadians are “dumb fing Canucks.” I do, however, think that the ones who make a decision to meddle with American affairs, and racists like you, deserve to be told off. (Yeah, I called you a racist, even though you phrased it as a hypothetical, because that much detail must come from somewhere in your cold, black Canadian heart.)

  34. Someone needs to point out to that nosey Canadian and the Judge that the NSA didn’t consider it terrorism when they monitored the initial facebook message.

  35. This is utterly ridiciulous. So, an online gamer made a comment in poor taste. Well, *THAT’S* earth-shattering news. Wake the presses! (Yeah, that’s a sarcastic comment.) This is a waste of resources and a product of government idiocy and corperate prison interests. It has nothing to do with the “crime” (I don’t even think this is a crime unless you can prove intent). But, if the government can threaten a man who dowloaded too many free articles with 45 years in jail, they can do anything they want without reguard to anyone’s “rights” (if we even have any left these days).

    And I agree with other posts here. Sue the pants off your state and don’t accept a settlement. Drag them through court until they’ve paid for every day of your son’s pain and suffering. It would send a message, at least (even if it likely wouldn’t succeed in a state like Texas).

  36. @artillicous I’m sorry but please do not generalize what Canadian’s would do from one person that lives in Canada. This person was, in my own opinion, probably not versed in the gaming mentality and did not realise that this was common.

    The colour of the theatre is modelling a very ageing flavour that I favour.

    • I would never advocate targeting this woman with any sort of illegal acts.

      I do, however, firmly believe that free speech isn’t free, and that when you say or something intended to screw someone over, and you succeed beyond your wildest imagination, then society has a right to know who you are, and to criticize you accordingly.

      Not only has this woman severely harmed Justin Carter’s life, including causing him to be physically assaulted, she has done so with complete anonymity and impunity. Like the coward she is, she hid behind the Canadian Crime Stoppers Association because she knew they would protect her anonymity instead of contacting police herself and exposing herself to American justice (namely that the accused always has a right to face his or her accuser.)

  37. Why don’t we start a kickstarter event to raise the half a million fund to let him out? It would be totally possible!

  38. Guess he never heard of Rage/Quit..I guess for the time being he will be getting all the sex he has never wanted ..A virgin no more i think.

  39. Hmm, jailed for 8 years for making a facebook comment?, i think it’s time for people to stop closing their facebook accounts lol

  40. Just curious how they can do this to a teen, are they going to arrest mike Meyers for making jokes about eating a baby in Austin Powers? Or maybe any movie actor or producer that makes a violent movie that someone might copy? Or maybe just arrest anyone who’s ever said ” I’m going to kill you”? I’d know I’d be in jail I’m Texas because I’ve said that many a time sarcastically. I truly feel bad for this boy, I hope he can one day live a happy normal life if that’s ever possible for him now.

  41. Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. I cannot believe how fucking stupid our authorities are… Like, really.

  42. Seems like they’re trying to make an example out of him. Stupid decision to say that kind of shit after some guy killed elementary school kids. I would have been fine with him being scared for a couple days in jail, but this is pretty excessive. I hate trolls like him, but damn, that’s rough. If only they knew that this won’t stop people from saying stupid shit…Oh, and wtf is up with the people hating Canada? The lady only reported what she saw. He shouldn’t have made the stupid comment, and what’s happening to him isn’t really his or her fault. It’s just the justice system trying to put fear into other people.

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